You can laugh all you want to, but you can't deny that there is evidence that seems to support some kind of professional mind-control being done on Charlie and Family before TLB.
Firstly, you have to agree that the Family WAS very definitely under a form of mind-control practiced on them by Charles Manson.
Witnesses noticed the total control Charlie had over his followers:
coolopolis.blogspot.ca/2016/05/meeting-charles-manson-montrealer-on.html
Charles
Manson would come in (to the Topanga Corral) with his band of women,
his family, and sit down. When he would sit, they would all sit and when
he would get up, so would they. You could see the control he had over
these people.
www.cielodrive.com/archive/movie-lot-satan-portent-of-death/?fbclid=IwAR0Q5JkEXxzKN1uPlwPjLQuHODvFgdSXCIu2ov6Brut6UKSCPGtVuCF9qmI
"He
was playing his guitar and singing to about a dozen starry-eyed,
dirty-looking young girls with long, straggly hair who were squatting in
a circle around him on the scrubby ground. ... The thing that got me
was the way the girls just stared at him as if they were mesmerized, you
know, in a hypnotic trance." ...
"They’d just sort of wander
around the ranch aimlessly. To me, they appeared to be in a very sad
state of life. And when they’d come toward you, they moved as if we were
controlling them and had hypnotized them to come closer."
"Approaching
one of the girls one day, Regina asked if she could help her. Instead
of a direct reply, the “slave” girl said: ‘We love animals. We love any
dog. We don’t have much to eat but we feed the dogs what we have.’ "
Cease to Exist – Charles Manson, the Beach Boys and the Death of the Sixties by Christian Sellers
Stromberg
was distracted by the way Mary, Lyn, Pat and Susan constantly watched
Charlie, waiting for him to signal whatever it might be that he wanted
them to do. ..
Manson's Right Hand Man Speaks Out by Charles "Tex" Watson c. 2012 pg20
I never heard Manson mention Scientology... I know he was into mind control and good at programming us with his beliefs.
www.laweekly.com/the-last-supper-mansonites-converge-at-el-coyote/
Family member Patricia Krenwinkel, in correspondence with researcher John Judge, swore she had been a victim of mind control.
youtube.com/watch?v=RALD3lxuOVw
LVH: "The whole thing was always geared toward just complete mirroring of him(Charlie).
Krenny: ".... With Charlie he actually did like drug programming. I mean he was the focal point at all times."
www.xenu-directory.net/news/library-item.php?iid=4037
Cult leader was Svengali
"Manson's
'rule' at the ranch, the cowboy(Juan Flynn) said, began slowly. "He got
a lot of girls first, then began to bring in the men. He called the men
Zombies, I guess because they couldn't, do what they wanted to do."
Box 46 vol 26 Grogan retrial Aug, 1971
pg417 Spahn visitor Dawn Quandt:
Q: After the Manson family arrived, did some change come over Clem? ..
A: A change of--he was in their power or their thoughts. ... he had a tendency to be programmed by them.
My Life With Charles Manson by Paul Watkins, Chapter 23
Basically, Charlie’s trip was to program us all to submit: to give up our egos....
Death to Pigs by Robert Hendrickson, c.2011 pg277
Watkins: "He(Manson) always said, he said, "I'm gonna unprogram you and program you again," and that's what he did."
youtube.com/watch?v=HomPx76mAd8&lc=Ugy9oaX89l4WgGoOAAB4AaABAg
Kasabian's attorney: "She said that all the girls felt as if they were computers for this man (Manson)." (10:40mark)
Death to Pigs by Robert Hendrickson, pg244
Brooks:
"Well, before when he put his motions in with it, all he had to do was
start his motions and it's like, I would immediately turn on like a
computer. Like, the button would be clicked and I'd become whatever
machine or whatever tape was playing at the time."
The Mind Manipulators by Alan W. Scheflin c.1978
pg39
Many of the Family members have concluded that they were indeed hypnotized....
pg471
At
her re-trial, former Manson cult follower Leslie Van Houten argued that
she was a programmed dupe whose mind had been softened by LSD and then
shaped to commit horrible, violent crimes without remorse.
Box 16 Vol5020 pg75of166 Tex Watson
A: ... I was being run by Mr. Manson.
Q: So he put the thought in your mind, then, right?
A: That's the only thought I had.
December 1969 grand jury testimony of Susan Atkins, quoting Manson:
www.cielodrive.com/manson-case-files/BOX-24
Box 24 pg291of396
Marvin Part interview with Leslie Van Houton
VH: "And -- and he(Manson) used to -- he used to even say, umm, "I've become an empty hole." He'd say, "I can --" He says, "I have no control of what I'm saying." He just says, "I have no control of my actions. I don't even think about what I'm doing or saying."
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The Last Psychological Evaluation of Charles Manson: Implications for Personality, Psychopathology, and Ideology
(from a series of psychological tests given to CM in 1997)
pg5
He was particularly imbued with the idea that some people can place their thoughts into the minds of others and control their behavior, and he felt he was a victim of this phenomenon, and ironically denied taking any part in the Tate-LaBianca murders. ... He was viewed as manipulative, crafty, and seductive, with a good grasp of human motivation.
pg16
Reality distortions(exhibited by Manson) include a variety of hallucinations and delusions, including odd and unrealistic beliefs like thought insertions, mind reading, and thought broadcasting.
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www.cielodrive.com/manson-case-files/BOX-12c.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1JiVFd36w3l8SGzfK7WLcfOAd-82FN4Sp_SzXPi0yc2DkqACaAO1Q4Rnc
Manson Case Files Box 12c pg29of746 newpaper article Feb 20, 1970
"Manson's personality, too, is changing, the jailmate claimed. "They take him to the medical dispensary twice a day now, and I don't know what they're doing to him, but everybody is noticing a change in him--he's depressed, different." "
www.cielodrive.com/manson-case-files/BOX-12c.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2g_rduAK5VC7woYupWxgyGmHsJlWGIxMUZ1ctxmPQMRPKXaQY84wUCgWc
Manson Case Files Box 12c pg38of746 newpaper article Feb 4, 1970
"Charles admits to being afraid of only one thing: "These doctors here. They take me down to them every day. That's how Ruby (Jack Ruby, the killer of presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald) died--from the doctors; they gave him a leukemia shot!" "
If he was 'treated' after his arrest, could he have been 'treated' before the murders?
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'Manson's mother talks of his early life' LATimes article by Dave Smith of 1-26-71
And it was during this time(1958), she says, that she began to feel he(Charlie) needed psychiatric treatment, though it was far beyond their means.
Note that at this time Charlie had just been released from a long stint in Federal Prison.
Even Charlie thought he was going nuts in 1955:
HS, pg195
(Manson arrested for stealing cars Oct '55) "Taken to federal court, he pleaded guilty to the theft..., and asked for psychiatric help, stating "I was released from Chillicothe in 1954 and, having been confined for nine years, I was badly in need of psychiatric treatment. I was mentally confused and stole a car as a means of mental release from the confused state of mind that I was in."
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More evidence of an altered state:
https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthroughaudio/video/7240909758822157611
Dennis Hopper after visiting Manson in the downtown LA jail: "He said that like you know, he was a big star, like his whole life.. he had been acting out a movie but there hadn't been any movie cameras there."
(Secret Service interview from 1994)
Manson did ask several times what was the current status of the O.J. Simpson case. Manson stated "What do you think of that O.J. thing-- is it a movie or what?"
From researcher Paul Hart:
"Manson's cellmate Lanier Ramer said Manson was part of an LSD / behavior modification program at McNeil Island and Terminal Island just before his release. I have the interview with Lanier Ramer... never publicly released. Manson was subjected to LSD and sensory deprivation. He says Manson's personality was totally altered. He became messianic."
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Me: (quoting Schreck) "...her(Angela Lansbury) role in The Manchurian Candidate." Was it your impression that Charlie saw the movie?
Schreck: Yes, he definitely did and knew the plot well.
At the very least, we know that Charlie was fascinated with the topic of mind control
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Dianne Lake experiencing voice-into-brain technology? More MK/Ultra high strangeness from the Manson/TLB saga:
New York Times, Nov 11, 1970 Dianne Lake trial testimony
A key witness in the Tate-La Bianca murder trial admitted under cross-examination today that she hears voices... . When questioned.. as to what the voices said, she replied, “They say that this, is Charles Manson speaking” She said that it did, not sound like Manson's voice but that it: said it was him and would give her orders. Miss Lake... said that she first began hearing voices while she was on an LSD trip nearly three years ago.
[So just about the time she joined the Family.]
Sadie too?
Reflexion by Lynette Fromme, pg339
In late 1968-- "One day her(Atkins') eyes grew large as she told me, "The radio has been telling me to do things!" "
