Friday, February 21, 2025

What Did the CIA Know About Charles Manson? Netflix’s ‘Chaos’ Dives Into Conspiracy Theory

"It's a strange, surreal excursion into some no man's land of investigation," director Errol Morris says of the new documentary, which is based on Tom O'Neill's 2019 book

By Jon Blistein

February 21, 2025 


When Errol Morris was a graduate student in philosophy at University of California Berkeley, he made a "pilgrimage" to the California Medical Facility prison in Vacaville. Interested in insanity pleas and murder, the future Oscar-winning documentarian was there to interview the serial killer Ed Kemper. But while at the CMF, he was given another unexpected opportunity. 

"I was asked by the guard following my interview, 'You interested in meeting Charles Manson?'" Morris recalls in a recent interview. "And I said, 'Sure! Of course I am.'" 

The meeting didn't amount to much, Morris says: "Manson wanted to complain to me about his lack of masturbation privileges," he quips. Still, this was the mid-Seventies, and Manson remained a phenomenon. In 1971, the wild-eyed Svengali had been convicted on murder charges related to the Tate-LaBianca killings, carried out two years earlier by members of his so-called Family. In 1974, prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi published his best-selling book Helter Skelter, in which he recounted the case — centered around Manson's apparent desire to ignite an apocalyptic race-war —  that had secured his conviction. "Everybody was aware of this case," Morris says. "It's one of the most famous cases in American history, if not world history. And a lot of people, including myself, had read more than one book about it." He cites Helter Skelter, as well as Ed Sanders' The Family, though it was the former that forward the narrative that would define the Manson murders for years — one centered on LSD, brainwashing, out of control hippies, race wars, and the Beatles. 

Decades later, a new book would complicate that narrative. Tom O'Neill's Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties, co-written with journalist Dan Piepenbring and published in 2019, punctured Bugliosi's case, arguing the prosecutor hid evidence, coerced witnesses into lying, and pushed falsehoods that may have provided cover for other dark forces swirling around Manson — chief among them, the Central Intelligence Agency and its top-secret MKULTRA mind-control program. O'Neill's reporting suggested the Manson killings weren't a product of poisoned free-love, but a kind of blowback from the CIA's own experiments with LSD and brainwashing. And a cover-up may have furthered the aims of domestic espionage operations like the CIA's CHAOS and the FBI's COINTELPRO, which targeted and discredited radical movements whether hippies, Black Panthers, or anti-war activists.

O'Neill's book serves as the basis for Morris' new documentary, Chaos: The Manson Murders, which hits Netflix March 7. (The film's trailer is also premiering today, exclusively via Rolling Stone.) O'Neill's book is thrilling but dense, filled with countless threads to pull and dark corridors to explore. It could've easily been turned into a multi-part series, but Morris instead distilled the book's essence and most significant arguments into a 90-minute documentary that elucidates the potential links between Manson and the CIA, while using the case's myriad unanswered questions as a jumping off point to "reflect on the nature of investigations and truth."

But O'Neill also acknowledges that his reporting encroaches upon a truth that remains elusive. He still cannot, for instance, place West and Manson in the same room together. This ambiguity leads Morris to describe Chaos as "a strange, surreal excursion into some no man's land of investigation." For his new film, Morris embraced the uncertainties and instead tried to "deal with various accounts of why Manson committed these murders." 

Morris was first introduced to O'Neill, and his investigation, while the journalist was still struggling to finish his book. In fact, Morris says he was brought in to help O'Neil with this "labyrinthine enterprise." Morris spent three days interviewing O'Neill in his apartment, bursting with Manson research — "Folder after folder, box after box after box, cassette tape after cassette tape after cassette tape" — but O'Neill ultimately decided against the film. He went on to finish the book with Piepenbring, and after it became a hit, he reconnected with Morris to see if he wanted to finish the movie. 

Morris was eager to do just that. "I've probably read [Chaos] more times than I would like to admit," Morris says, adding: "Reading Tom's book, knowing Tom, and interviewing Tom has been an experience in and of itself. It's a very odd thing to say but true: Tom's book has caused me to reflect on the nature of investigations and the nature of truth." 

Tom O'Neill's 2019 book 'Chaos' introduced the theory that the CIA may have been studying the Manson Family long before the murders

Morris knows what it's like to obsess over a confounding case or fall down a CIA-sized rabbit hole. He did both in his 2017 miniseries Wormwood, about the mysterious MKULTRA-linked death of scientist Frank Olson. And his 2012 book, Wilderness of Error, probed the case of former Green Beret surgeon, Jeffrey MacDonald, convicted of killing his pregnant wife and two daughters; while Morris believes he showed the prosecution of MacDonald was "a violation of what we take to be due process," he acknowledges he was not successful in proving MacDonald's guilt or innocence. Morris is drawn to the "strange gray area of hunches, suppositions, [and] strange beliefs," but remains committed to the truth, even though he knows attaining it, in full, is rarely possible. (Through "sheer, obsession, diligence, and luck," he says, he came closest in 1988's The Thin Blue Line, which helped exonerate convicted murderer Randall Dale Adams.)

With Manson, the case is replete with — to paraphrase another Morris subject, Donald Rumsfeld — known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns. "There will be so many questions about this murder that will never be answered," Morris says. "Or let's just put it this way: I don't have answers to them, and I'm not sure when those answers will be forthcoming. I guess never say never."

What Morris feels he can say definitively is that Chaos dismantles the Helter Skelter theory. "I find Bugliosi's version far-fetched," Morris says. "Do I believe the Beatles and 'Helter Skelter' and the whole dream of a race war motivated this story? I think it's unlikely."

More far-fetched than a version involving MKULTRA and CIA experiments?

"I think it is," Morris says with a smile. "Was that stuff going on? Yes. Was it going on with Manson? Maybe." 

In lieu of concrete answers, Morris latched onto other people and elements of the mystery, like Manson's music. The film is partly soundtracked by Manson demo recordings, and features an interview with Gregg Jakobson, a talent scout and close friends of the Beach Boys' Dennis Wilson, who famously wound up in Manson's orbit. (Wilson earned Manson's ire when he remade Manson's song "Cease to Exist" as the Beach Boys' "Never Learn Not to Love," without giving Manson credit.) 

"I like Manson's music!" Morris exclaims. "Call me a fool. But I think there's something really interesting [about it], and a lot of other people were interested in his music." 

Morris pushes back against what he calls the "default position that Manson was deeply untalented" and suggests his songs reveal "the desperation of the man." He's also partial to the theory that Manson's rejection by the record producer Terry Melcher played a role in the Tate-LaBianca murders. Melcher famously lived at the house at 10050 Cielo Drive before Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate moved in. Revenge — not unlike MKULTRA and LSD mind control — feels less far-fetched than "Helter Skelter." 

"We've all heard the argument that we should default to the simplest explanation, but maybe there is no simple explanation," Morris says. "Maybe there's just a stupid explanation. The explanation of confusion, cross purposes, people who don't know what they're doing, and have mixed, confused reasons for doing anything."

Bobby Beausoleil was arrested for murder a day before the Tate massacre took place.

Bobby Beausoleil was arrested for murder a day before the Tate massacre took place

Morris found this thread, too, in the story of Bobby Beausoleil, the Family member serving a life sentence for murdering Gary Hinman in July 1969, a few weeks before the Tate-LaBianca killings. As Beausoleil recalls in the doc, he was confronting Hinman over a drug deal gone bad when Manson barged in, slashed Hinman's face, then left Beausoleil to deal with his mess. Worried Hinman would snitch if he took him to an emergency room, Beausoleil says he called Manson and demanded he fix the problem. Manson allegedly told Beausoleil that he "knew what to do as well as" Manson did, then hung up the phone. 

"I've asked Bobby several times, 'You kill Hinman, you take his car, you put the murder weapon in the car, so that when you're ultimately arrested, they have the car, the murder weapon, and you! Who does that kind of thing?' The only explanation that I have, and I've said this many times to Bobby, is it's all incredibly so stupid. But not so stupid that it didn't actually happen."

While Morris says O'Neill "discounts" much of what Beausoleil says, the filmmaker found him "entirely compelling" — not because he believed everything Beausoleil told him, but because, over 50 years later, he was still "trying desperately to come to terms with what he had done and what happened to him."

He adds, "In everything that Bobby says to me, he too is trying to grapple with, if you like, the stupidity of it all. I sometimes look back on my life and I think, 'My god, this was stupid. How could you have ever lived it?' And the fact that Bobby is grappling with it still, I find endlessly interesting and moving."

Morris even gives Beausoleil the penultimate word in Chaos (Manson, obviously, gets the last), as he succinctly meditates on peoples' fondness for fantasy, speculation, and conspiracy when reality is often so much more mundane — even stupid. 

"Could it be that some things are just a result of confusion and ignorance?" Morris wonders. "Rather than some kind of grand conspiracy that's being played out and orchestrated by one person, or a group of few people working in consort." Extrapolating to the chaos engulfing the world now, he adds, "I suppose when the history is written of our current era, and we ask questions about why our democracy fell apart, the feelings that I'm left with — maybe this shows my own inclinations — is that we're looking at the machinations of total incompetence thrashing around in reality."


Monday, February 10, 2025

"The radio has been telling me to do things!" - TLB and the MK/Ultra theory


You can laugh all you want to, but you can't deny that there is evidence that seems to support some kind of professional mind-control being done on Charlie and Family before TLB.

Firstly, you have to agree that the Family WAS very definitely under a form of mind-control practiced on them by Charles Manson.

Witnesses noticed the total control Charlie had over his followers:


coolopolis.blogspot.ca/2016/05/meeting-charles-manson-montrealer-on.html
Charles Manson would come in (to the Topanga Corral) with his band of women, his family, and sit down. When he would sit, they would all sit and when he would get up, so would they. You could see the control he had over these people.

www.cielodrive.com/archive/movie-lot-satan-portent-of-death/?fbclid=IwAR0Q5JkEXxzKN1uPlwPjLQuHODvFgdSXCIu2ov6Brut6UKSCPGtVuCF9qmI
"He was playing his guitar and singing to about a dozen starry-eyed, dirty-looking young girls with long, straggly hair who were squatting in a circle around him on the scrubby ground. ... The thing that got me was the way the girls just stared at him as if they were mesmerized, you know, in a hypnotic trance." ...

"They’d just sort of wander around the ranch aimlessly. To me, they appeared to be in a very sad state of life. And when they’d come toward you, they moved as if we were controlling them and had hypnotized them to come closer."

"Approaching one of the girls one day, Regina asked if she could help her. Instead of a direct reply, the “slave” girl said: ‘We love animals. We love any dog. We don’t have much to eat but we feed the dogs what we have.’ "


Cease to Exist – Charles Manson, the Beach Boys and the Death of the Sixtie
s by Christian Sellers
Stromberg was distracted by the way Mary, Lyn, Pat and Susan constantly watched Charlie, waiting for him to signal whatever it might be that he wanted them to do. ..

Manson's Right Hand Man Speaks Out by Charles "Tex" Watson c. 2012 pg20
I never heard Manson mention Scientology... I know he was into mind control and good at programming us with his beliefs.

www.laweekly.com/the-last-supper-mansonites-converge-at-el-coyote/
Family member Patricia Krenwinkel, in correspondence with researcher John Judge, swore she had been a victim of mind control.

youtube.com/watch?v=RALD3lxuOVw
LVH: "The whole thing was always geared toward just complete mirroring of him(Charlie).
Krenny: ".... With Charlie he actually did like drug programming. I mean he was the focal point at all times."

www.xenu-directory.net/news/library-item.php?iid=4037
Cult leader was Svengali
"Manson's 'rule' at the ranch, the cowboy(Juan Flynn) said, began slowly. "He got a lot of girls first, then began to bring in the men. He called the men Zombies, I guess because they couldn't, do what they wanted to do."

Box 46 vol 26 Grogan retrial Aug, 1971
pg417 Spahn visitor Dawn Quandt:
Q: After the Manson family arrived, did some change come over Clem? ..
A: A change of--he was in their power or their thoughts. ... he had a tendency to be programmed by them.

My Life With Charles Manson
by Paul Watkins, Chapter 23
Basically, Charlie’s trip was to program us all to submit: to give up our egos....

Death to Pigs by Robert Hendrickson, c.2011 pg277
Watkins: "He(Manson) always said, he said, "I'm gonna unprogram you and program you again," and that's what he did."

youtube.com/watch?v=HomPx76mAd8&lc=Ugy9oaX89l4WgGoOAAB4AaABAg
Kasabian's attorney: "She said that all the girls felt as if they were computers for this man (Manson)." (10:40mark)

Death to Pigs by Robert Hendrickson, pg244
Brooks: "Well, before when he put his motions in with it, all he had to do was start his motions and it's like, I would immediately turn on like a computer. Like, the button would be clicked and I'd become whatever machine or whatever tape was playing at the time."

The Mind Manipulators
by Alan W. Scheflin c.1978
pg39
Many of the Family members have concluded that they were indeed hypnotized....
pg471
At her re-trial, former Manson cult follower Leslie Van Houten argued that she was a programmed dupe whose mind had been softened by LSD and then shaped to commit horrible, violent crimes without remorse.

Box 16 Vol5020 pg75of166 Tex Watson
A: ... I was being run by Mr. Manson.
Q: So he put the thought in your mind, then, right?
A: That's the only thought I had.

December 1969 grand jury testimony of Susan Atkins, quoting Manson:

“I have tricked all of you. I have tricked you into doing what I want… I am using you and you are all aware of that now and it is like I have got a bunch of slaves around me.”


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But the big question is, was Charles Manson himself an involuntary victim of mind-control? Charlie made statements that pointed in that direction.


www.cielodrive.com/manson-case-files/BOX-24
Box 24 pg291of396
Marvin Part interview with Leslie Van Houton
VH: "And -- and he(Manson) used to -- he used to even say, umm, "I've become an empty hole." He'd say, "I can --" He says, "I have no control of what I'm saying." He just says, "I have no control of my actions. I don't even think about what I'm doing or saying."

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The Last Psychological Evaluation of Charles Manson
: Implications for Personality, Psychopathology, and Ideology
(from a series of psychological tests given to CM in 1997)

pg5
He was particularly imbued with the idea that some people can place their thoughts into the minds of others and control their behavior, and he felt he was a victim of this phenomenon, and ironically denied taking any part in the Tate-LaBianca murders. ... He was viewed as manipulative, crafty, and seductive, with a good grasp of human motivation.

pg16
Reality distortions(exhibited by Manson) include a variety of hallucinations and delusions, including odd and unrealistic beliefs like thought insertions, mind reading, and thought broadcasting.

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www.cielodrive.com/manson-case-files/BOX-12c.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1JiVFd36w3l8SGzfK7WLcfOAd-82FN4Sp_SzXPi0yc2DkqACaAO1Q4Rnc
Manson Case Files Box 12c pg29of746 newpaper article Feb 20, 1970
"Manson's personality, too, is changing, the jailmate claimed. "They take him to the medical dispensary twice a day now, and I don't know what they're doing to him, but everybody is noticing a change in him--he's depressed, different." "

www.cielodrive.com/manson-case-files/BOX-12c.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2g_rduAK5VC7woYupWxgyGmHsJlWGIxMUZ1ctxmPQMRPKXaQY84wUCgWc
Manson Case Files Box 12c pg38of746 newpaper article Feb 4, 1970
"Charles admits to being afraid of only one thing: "These doctors here. They take me down to them every day. That's how Ruby (Jack Ruby, the killer of presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald) died--from the doctors; they gave him a leukemia shot!" "

If he was 'treated' after his arrest, could he have been 'treated' before the murders?

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'Manson's mother talks of his early life' LATimes article by Dave Smith of 1-26-71
And it was during this time(1958), she says, that she began to feel he(Charlie) needed psychiatric treatment, though it was far beyond their means.

Note that at this time Charlie had just been released from a long stint in Federal Prison.

Even Charlie thought he was going nuts in 1955:

HS, pg195
(Manson arrested for stealing cars Oct '55) "Taken to federal court, he pleaded guilty to the theft..., and asked for psychiatric help, stating "I was released from Chillicothe in 1954 and, having been confined for nine years, I was badly in need of psychiatric treatment. I was mentally confused and stole a car as a means of mental release from the confused state of mind that I was in."
 
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More evidence of an altered state:


https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthroughaudio/video/7240909758822157611
Dennis Hopper after visiting Manson in the downtown LA jail: "He said that like you know, he was a big star, like his whole life.. he had been acting out a movie but there hadn't been any movie cameras there."

(Secret Service interview from 1994)
Manson did ask several times what was the current status of the O.J. Simpson case. Manson stated "What do you think of that O.J. thing-- is it a movie or what?"


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From researcher Paul Hart:

"Manson's cellmate Lanier Ramer said Manson was part of an LSD / behavior modification program at McNeil Island and Terminal Island just before his release. I have the interview with Lanier Ramer... never publicly released. Manson was subjected to LSD and sensory deprivation. He says Manson's personality was totally altered. He became messianic."

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www.facebook.com/groups/1883381595256076/posts/3796820603912156/?comment_id=3797376933856523&reply_comment_id=3798324783761738&notif_id=1738172460431330&notif_t=group_comment_mention
Me: (quoting Schreck) "...her(Angela Lansbury) role in The Manchurian Candidate."  Was it your impression that Charlie saw the movie?
Schreck: Yes, he definitely did and knew the plot well.

At the very least, we know that Charlie was fascinated with the topic of mind control

 
                                           Raymund Shaw?  Raymund Prentiss Shaw?

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Dianne Lake experiencing voice-into-brain technology? More MK/Ultra high strangeness from the Manson/TLB saga:

New York Times, Nov 11, 1970 Dianne Lake trial testimony
A key witness in the Tate-La Bianca murder trial admitted under cross-examination today that she hears voices... . When questioned.. as to what the voices said, she replied, “They say that this, is Charles Manson speaking” She said that it did, not sound like Manson's voice but that it: said it was him and would give her orders.   Miss Lake... said that she first began hearing voices while she was on an LSD trip nearly three years ago.
[So just about the time she joined the Family.]

Sadie too?

Reflexion by Lynette Fromme, pg339
In late 1968--   "One day her(Atkins') eyes grew large as she told me, "The radio has been telling me to do things!" "
 
 
oo-ee-oo!







Monday, February 3, 2025

Manson Family Murders: Inside Spahn Ranch (1969)

On 9 December 1969, ITN's Robert Hargreaves reported from the now-infamous Spahn Ranch in Los Angeles. The ranch was home to the hippie commune and cult known as the Manson Family led by Charles Manson, who had been arrested and indicted days before for the murder of actress Sharon Tate, the wife of director Roman Polanski, and six other people. This report also features footage of 10050 Cielo Drive, Tate and Polanski's home in the Hollywood hills where the murders took place.

Leslie Van Houten, convicted murderer and member of the infamous Manson Family, has been released on parole after serving a sentence of 53 years. Having been arrested and charged in relation to the 1969 killings of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, in January 1971 Van Houten was found guilty of their murders along with group leader Charles Manson and fellow followers Patricia Kiemwinkel and Susan Atkins. Originally given the death sentence, Van Houten was the youngest woman ever condemned to death in California. Her sentence was, along with those of her fellow convicts, later commuted to life in prison with eligibility for parole after seven years. Van Houten would be the subject of more than 23 parole hearings before her release five decades later.

The Manson Family and the murders they committed continue to grip the popular imagination and remain a macabre fascination for journalists, writers, and filmmakers alike. Leslie Van Houten has been the subject of a number of dramatic portrayals, most recently being played by Victoria Pedretti in Quentin Tarantino's 2019 film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Spahn Ranch features prominently as a setting in the film.