Thanks Frank! I thought it was probably photo shopped like the Dennis Wilson/Manson picture but it seems there was another option, Charlie has a doppelgänger!
Comes up for me, William Marshall. Copy and paste? But you can find the same photo at http://www.taringa.net/posts/autos-motos/16624596/Chopper-Verdadero.html - scroll about a third of the way down the 'page'.
I live in a place that's full of old hippies. For decades a popular local joke has been to describe various people as "you know... that guy with the long hair, beard & moustache"... 'cause virtually every guy of a certain age around here looks like that and most "normal" people don't notice much else. Throw in a generic set of round, wire-rimmed spectacles and you've got the hippie version of a novelty Groucho Marx mask (anyone remember them?)
There are plenty of things I'd love to fondle, ColScott, but a rusty old motorcycle that's had dirty hairy hippy crotch rubbed against it ain't one of them. The only talismans I need are George's and Schreck's books, and my copy of Mason's SIEGE. ATWA-RAHOWA, kamerads <3 <3 <3
Now, if ya take that phrase and substitute just about any other ethnic, cultural, racial or religious group for “hippy” you’ll probably get called a bigot (or at least ya would’ve back in those pre-alt-right days when being a bigot was regarded as uncool). But even then, “hippies” were the one minority group you could denigrate to your heart’s content without fear of politically correct reprisal. Weird, eh?
Us hippies kinda got used to it after a while and even learned to make jokes about it. I’ve worn a Cartman t-shirt for years- “it’s all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy crap”. Nevertheless, most of us DO wash pretty regularly. We’re consoled by the fact that it’s obvious that the people who favour those kinda epithets usually have very little real experience with hippies and as such are basically talking out of their arse. Occasionally though you meet someone who actually grew up in the hippy scene that feels that way. Usually they’re almost pathological in their loathing of hippies and if that’s the case, the best thing is to just feel compassion for ‘em. Obviously their parents weren’t particularly good hippies. There’s fuckwits in every social, ethnic, cultural, racial or religious grouping. To tar everyone in a particular grouping with the same brush because of that though seems kinda narrow-minded.
I like how brownrice took offence at me making a joke about hippies, but not about me salivating over James Mason or my invocation of RAHOWA. :P ooo-eee-ooo!
Apologies if I offended you, rice, it was really a light-hearted comment that I didn't put much thought into. At all. (And come on dude, as a personal aficionado of groping man-crotch, I have experience here- most of them are at least a -little- funky, to varying degrees). The cultural stereotype of hippies that's filtered down to those of us born in the '80s was that they popularly indulged in the "dirt is beautiful" scene. Particularly with the Manson gang (although I realise the guy in the pic isn't one of those); it's always stuck with me, those descriptions of outsiders who ran into the girls how they SMELLED and were covered in reahhed dirty clothes.
I have affection for hippies (I used to be a neo-hippy myself, an embarrassing '00s-era plastic copy-cat of the Original Movement- complete with a pot pipe always in one pocket, the Little Red Book permanently in the other, and Leary's 'Politics of Ecstasy' or Castaneda's 'Fire From Within' readily available at all times) even if now I fundamentally disagree with everything they stood for. It's all Work, Family, Nation, baby.
I again apologise for my narrow-mindedness. Maybe I should swap the suboxone & valium for some LSD & DXM. I still love ya tho, brownrice, baby. Never Learn Not To Love, friend <3
No need to apologise, Vermouth. I certainly didn’t take it personally. My comment was more an observation/rumination that I couldn’t help indulging in. I enjoy & respect your posts (& avatar)… and even laughed initially at the hippy joke. Personally, I’m part of the cynical wing of the hippy tribe… I actually realise that I’m a mad old hippy and how incredibly irrelevant that makes me in the contemporary world. I spend a lot of time (in the privacy of my own home) bitching about stupid, fucking hippies. So, yeah… no problems there :-)
I misread your initial Mason reference as “Manson” and sorta glossed over it… just googled RAHOWA now and what can I say but “eek”. The whole white supremacy, neo-nazi shtick is pretty much the antithesis of everything I believe in.
Work & Family are good things though… not so sure about Nation :-) I’d definitely agree with adding a little LSD to your chemical regime but DMT would be much better than DXM :-)
Anyways, I reiterate- no offence taken, Vermouth m’dear. Love, peace & all that tree-hugging hippy crap
Now that I am retired I am retracing my early forays to California in 1968 & 1969.My Dad worked for George in Hollywood during WW2 and shortly after.In Jan '69 George got me a short term rental about a 15 min walk from Spahn.I returned to Boston in June after a 3 month Commericial photography seminar in Chatsworth.Anyway a Bill Nelson from Anaheim tracked me down in Fla in 1991 through purged voter/census lists he acquired of Simi Hills. He said he was the definitive authority on the Family.He was progressively caustic during the 3 or 4 calls we had.I couldn't tell him what I didnt know.Did you or anyone else ever get contacted by Nelson?
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Fake. Charlie's head doesn't look like it's screwed on quite right. Who's the other guy?
Not a faked pic, but not Manson either. See http://www.wind-drifter.com/mc/chopper.php (scroll down).
Thanks Frank! I thought it was probably photo shopped like the Dennis Wilson/Manson picture but it seems there was another option, Charlie has a doppelgänger!
Another one bites the dust. I wonder if Gabby knows that he's caused such a fuss?
I bet that dude won his share of bar bets.
Frank that's not where I found the pic but I can't get the link you mentioned to come up ?
Maybe you guys could buy the bike and fondle it like a talisman?
I thought Charlie never had long hair or a bears till he got busted ;)
*beard...... :(
Comes up for me, William Marshall. Copy and paste? But you can find the same photo at http://www.taringa.net/posts/autos-motos/16624596/Chopper-Verdadero.html - scroll about a third of the way down the 'page'.
FrankM
I live in a place that's full of old hippies. For decades a popular local joke has been to describe various people as "you know... that guy with the long hair, beard & moustache"... 'cause virtually every guy of a certain age around here looks like that and most "normal" people don't notice much else. Throw in a generic set of round, wire-rimmed spectacles and you've got the hippie version of a novelty Groucho Marx mask (anyone remember them?)
There are plenty of things I'd love to fondle, ColScott, but a rusty old motorcycle that's had dirty hairy hippy crotch rubbed against it ain't one of them. The only talismans I need are George's and Schreck's books, and my copy of Mason's SIEGE. ATWA-RAHOWA, kamerads <3 <3 <3
Vermouth Brilliantine said:
“dirty hairy hippy crotch”
Now, if ya take that phrase and substitute just about any other ethnic, cultural, racial or religious group for “hippy” you’ll probably get called a bigot (or at least ya would’ve back in those pre-alt-right days when being a bigot was regarded as uncool). But even then, “hippies” were the one minority group you could denigrate to your heart’s content without fear of politically correct reprisal. Weird, eh?
Us hippies kinda got used to it after a while and even learned to make jokes about it. I’ve worn a Cartman t-shirt for years- “it’s all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy crap”. Nevertheless, most of us DO wash pretty regularly. We’re consoled by the fact that it’s obvious that the people who favour those kinda epithets usually have very little real experience with hippies and as such are basically talking out of their arse. Occasionally though you meet someone who actually grew up in the hippy scene that feels that way. Usually they’re almost pathological in their loathing of hippies and if that’s the case, the best thing is to just feel compassion for ‘em. Obviously their parents weren’t particularly good hippies. There’s fuckwits in every social, ethnic, cultural, racial or religious grouping. To tar everyone in a particular grouping with the same brush because of that though seems kinda narrow-minded.
I hope all of our British friends are safe tonight.
I like how brownrice took offence at me making a joke about hippies, but not about me salivating over James Mason or my invocation of RAHOWA. :P ooo-eee-ooo!
Apologies if I offended you, rice, it was really a light-hearted comment that I didn't put much thought into. At all. (And come on dude, as a personal aficionado of groping man-crotch, I have experience here- most of them are at least a -little- funky, to varying degrees). The cultural stereotype of hippies that's filtered down to those of us born in the '80s was that they popularly indulged in the "dirt is beautiful" scene. Particularly with the Manson gang (although I realise the guy in the pic isn't one of those); it's always stuck with me, those descriptions of outsiders who ran into the girls how they SMELLED and were covered in reahhed dirty clothes.
I have affection for hippies (I used to be a neo-hippy myself, an embarrassing '00s-era plastic copy-cat of the Original Movement- complete with a pot pipe always in one pocket, the Little Red Book permanently in the other, and Leary's 'Politics of Ecstasy' or Castaneda's 'Fire From Within' readily available at all times) even if now I fundamentally disagree with everything they stood for. It's all Work, Family, Nation, baby.
I again apologise for my narrow-mindedness. Maybe I should swap the suboxone & valium for some LSD & DXM. I still love ya tho, brownrice, baby. Never Learn Not To Love, friend <3
No need to apologise, Vermouth. I certainly didn’t take it personally. My comment was more an observation/rumination that I couldn’t help indulging in. I enjoy & respect your posts (& avatar)… and even laughed initially at the hippy joke. Personally, I’m part of the cynical wing of the hippy tribe… I actually realise that I’m a mad old hippy and how incredibly irrelevant that makes me in the contemporary world. I spend a lot of time (in the privacy of my own home) bitching about stupid, fucking hippies. So, yeah… no problems there :-)
I misread your initial Mason reference as “Manson” and sorta glossed over it… just googled RAHOWA now and what can I say but “eek”. The whole white supremacy, neo-nazi shtick is pretty much the antithesis of everything I believe in.
Work & Family are good things though… not so sure about Nation :-) I’d definitely agree with adding a little LSD to your chemical regime but DMT would be much better than DXM :-)
Anyways, I reiterate- no offence taken, Vermouth m’dear.
Love, peace & all that tree-hugging hippy crap
Ha Ha lol ..... The Guy ,Gabby, real name is Scott..according to the URL & Story... Makes you think....
I just noticed that the victim of Roman asked a judge to drop the rape charge.
Now that I am retired I am retracing my early forays to California in 1968 & 1969.My Dad worked for George in Hollywood during WW2 and shortly after.In Jan '69 George got me a short term rental about a 15 min walk from Spahn.I returned to Boston in June after a 3 month Commericial photography seminar in Chatsworth.Anyway a Bill Nelson from Anaheim tracked me down in Fla in 1991 through purged voter/census lists he acquired of Simi Hills. He said he was the definitive authority on the Family.He was progressively caustic during the 3 or 4 calls we had.I couldn't tell him what I didnt know.Did you or anyone else ever get contacted by Nelson?
Have any of the home movies the family supposedly made ever been found
Have any of the home movies the family supposedly made ever been found
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