Wednesday, November 5, 2014
Debra Tate chicken fight of 1976
I do not know the story that goes with these photos. All I know is, Debra Tate, Nastassja Kinski, Arnold Schwartzeneggar, Johnny Crawford, and a mustachioed man of unknown origin were playing in the pool. I will note that the participants in these photos look like they are having a blast! Not everyone can say that they've had topless chicken fights with a guy who became governor of the state of California, right? More power to them. . . . . .
Great find Ann. Wow, Debra Tate was a very pretty girl.
ReplyDeleteShe certainly was, SusanB. All the Tate girls were highly attractive! Schwartzeneggar (did I spell that right?) not so much. All he needed was neck bolts. I've always wondered if he remembered Debra from that topless day at the pool, when reading her letters, begging him to overturn Bruce Davis's parole date whenhe was governor? I know Arnold overturned it. Did the memory of a nice rack help in his decision? Uh, the world will never know. I don't think it would hurt.
ReplyDeleteNeck bolts! LOLOLOL. Thanks. I nearly peed myself!
ReplyDeleteGawd! I miss the 70s!
ReplyDeleteGlad I could be of service, my dear Suze. Now, I am off on a road trip to the Texas/Mexico border! Y'all take care!!!
ReplyDeleteQuite possibly the breast - er, sorry - best post in the history of this blog. Those pictures will live long in the mamm - er, sorry - memory.
ReplyDeleteOh, and very historically informative etc. Thanks Ann! ;)
Nice pictures. Do you have any utters?
ReplyDeleteThis really is the STORY that NEVER ends - IF that really is D. Tate and N. Kinski in 1976 !
ReplyDeleteKinski was 15 in 1976 and began a relationship with Polanski. So WHO is the pornographer (taking nude photos of minors is a BIG crime in America) ?
Because Arnold, as governor, did NOT recuse himself from altering Bruce Davis's fate (because of his relationship with D. Tate) WE are left with a very delicate legal situation here. These photos ( IF authentic ) as a minimum, provide evidence of just how CORRUPT our parole system and the "establishment" really is. IF those 2 topless girls were UNDER age at the time - Armold is a CHILD molester: That is the Law.
ANN: can you tell us more - Gloria Alread would sure be interested in this story. She represented girls who claimed Arnold harrassed them - which of course HE denied. Maybe this is part of the reason why Polanski doesn't dare return to the US.
It's starting to appear like there may have been a Child / Adult sex RING operating out of Hollywood.
Poor Mr. TATE - he must have been furious
To Mr. Humphrat: Read the "Penagrass" letter - JFK actually started what would become the Vietnam WAR, the Democrats NOW need to try and re-write HIS namesake, otherwise THEY have NO hereos, other than Roosevelt.
On the record at least, Kinski denies the affair with Polanski.
ReplyDeletethank you Robert for your answer.
ReplyDeleteIn the second pic Crawford has that look like he's saying, "Didn't I tell you LA is fucking great?"
ReplyDeleteOh man..i had another idea of who Debra was. Remember the article "My sister's murder" on People Magazine? "It's made me what i am?"... She seemed a depressed person.
ReplyDeleteDid Debra meet Nastassja through Roman? I've seen one of these photos before, but I can't remember where.
ReplyDeleteI looked up Johnny Crawford and all I see is a Johnny Crawford who was a Mouseketeer and the little boy in The Rifle Man-is that the same guy?
ReplyDeleteMr. Henderson I looked up the Pendergrass letters and found a letter from a woman who lost a brother in Vietnam asking why are we there and a letter in which JFK replies to keep the Communists from taking over S.Vietnam and SE Asia. However, JFK also said it was the Vietnamese's conflict to win or lose and we could help them. I don't see any evidence he would have expanded our involvement like LBJ did.
ReplyDeleteTex is going to heaven. He would not approve of these sinful photos.
ReplyDeleteHump, yes it's the same Johnny Crawford.
ReplyDeleteI also googled Johnny Crawford. He was born in 1946, making him around 30 at the time these pics were taken. Creepy. Regardless of how "liberated" these young women believed themselves to be ie perhaps thinking nothing of going topless in the company of older men (including Mr Moustache) it just feels yuck to me. I wonder if, as queried by another blogger, if RP was the photographer. If Kinski was around, Im sure he wouldnt be far. Affair or no affair, Im sure he would have more than the eye of his lens aimed at her teenie titties.
ReplyDeleteMr. Humphat: YES, but there is much more evidence that Kennedy was the actual "Commie Hater." AND HE and the CIA had the President of South Vietnam OVERTHROWN. HO-CHEMEN (North Vietnam) took that to mean the US WANTED the North to take over South Vietnam and proceeded to invade the South. Hense the seeds of WAR were planted. Kennedy was then assassinated and LBJ ignited a WAR of WARS. This story was kept out of ALL school books for over ten years AFTER the WAR ended. NOW, realize that a formal "education" actually means DELEATING important facts.
ReplyDeleteOf course, there is also the possibly, as we know today, that Kennedy was so hopped up on pain medication and weed that HE could have just been so out of it, that a WAR to him was just another bad TRIP.
Every year more and more comes to light regarding this subject, BUT really WHO now gives a shit. Today. the news is all about the Kardashians and P didy doodly tit squat. Look at the photos of Arnold and realize that most Californians are thrilled that HE is OUT of our lives FOREVER more.
Thanks Matt! By the way I love your assessment of the look on his face in picture 2. Also, people can hear his records on You Tube.
ReplyDeleteI hope RP wasn't the photographer. Taking semi-nude pics of his dead wife's sister? That would be gross even for him.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I looked up Natasha on Wikipedia, and she said, in retrospect, she wasn't happy with how she was treated in the industry when she was 15 or 16 regarding nudity. Perhaps at this gathering she was "an actress" with RP and the subject of age never came up. Or maybe they just didn't care.
ReplyDeleteI don't think being topless was/is a big deal to most Europeans like it still is to a lot of people here in the U.S. The age of consent is much lower in Europe too, even back then, so Natassia Kinski probably didn't feel out of place or that anything was wrong even though this country's laws were different to Germany. I believe that's where she is from anyway.
ReplyDeleteTopless swimming was probably nothing to Kinski or Arnie and if the others- who I believe were all of legal age are having a good time and comfortable in thier own skin- I'm with AustinAnn- more power to them. JMO anyway.
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ReplyDeletePS...I'm not trying to say that it wasn't a crime to take pictures of a underage girl by the way...whoever the photographer was. Also I read a quote given by Nastassia about Roman P. She said something along the lines that " He was ten times better as a director then he was as a lover." So it sounds like there was something there, at least to some degree anyway. I did not see Mr. Humprats comment about Nastassia saying she did indeed feel exploited at that age with nudity before my prior comment, so my assumption about her possibly being more open-minded about being topless seems to be wrong. It's not the first and it won't be the last time I've been wrong that's for sure.
ReplyDeleteIs this considered pornographic? To me it looks like foolish but pretty young girls (whom we happen to recognize) playing in the pool topless with celebrity guys who were certainly old enough to know better. They made a stupid decision to allow photographs to be taken of the frolic, but who would have imagined back then what the internet would be like... At worst, I think this photo series is embarrassing to those who are clearly recognizable. LOL. Nobody's wearing tops, but they've all got their bottoms on, so big whoop. Are there legal guidelines which would make this fall into the category of pornographic photography (if the girls were 15 or 16)? Maybe so. Lotsa young girls used to go topless at private pools in LA. Nobody ever caught ME on film, to my knowledge.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the more power to them. It looks like lots of fun was had by all. The guy with the mustache reminds me of a less buff Mark Spitz, maybe mixed with the guy who streaked at the Oscars, if memory serves me right, which it often doesn't.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Nastassia felt exploited. She said she didn't like the way she was treated, regarding her nudity in films, etc. Sounds more like she didn't like the way the industry treated her because of the fact she did nudity, etc
ReplyDeleteTrue all the Tate girls where beautiful Mr and Mrs Tate had perfect genes.I think that Schwartzeneggar should not have been allowed to make the decision about Davis based on this photo altho I do think Davis should never get out.I do not like Schwartzeneggar s decision on the Brandon Hein case.I was hopeing that he would look at the outdated law in that case and give.
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