The smallest DETAIL can relate to the most significant CLUE.
When everyone else watches this scene (in MANSON at 3 minutes 50 seconds - also opening credits is a great clear face shot of the "red headed" man) in the woods behind the Spahn Ranch - as the Family sings "One is One is One" - I think of LSD and MIND Control.
By now most can identify by name everyone in the group, EXCEPT for one. Yes, he's barely visible and mostly insignificant and known only as the red headed man. And he would have remained insignificant, except that recently Matt has me asked me who he is, and recently the story broke about how LSD has been used successfully to modify the brains of criminals.
FIRST you must understand that LSD was developed for the purpose of ridding mental patients of traumatic events and or troubling pasts. In 1967 I was discharged from the Army to attend college. My second semester I took a psychology class where I met a woman who was an early LSD experimental patient. She explained the entire process where a would-be doctor give her a dose of LSD and then talked her through a trip where he would direct her to disguard certain past experiences and or people from her brain. The result? A step-by-step purging of her brain's "hard drive."
Fast forward to another day in 1970 at Spahn's Ranch when I was filming the 'Sing-a-Long" for the MANSON movie. The "red-headed man," I assumed, was just another soul who wondered in for a day to experience the far-out life style of the Manson Family. I never saw him again at Spahn and never questioned the matter.
But months later, I attended a birthday party for someone very special in the Hollywood's metaphysical community. I could hardly believe my eyes, nor he his, but there he was - the "red headed man." We had a great conversation and YES - he explained to me exactly how the Manson Family performed the LSD operation on him - which was exactly the same way as the early LSD patient explained it to me a couple of years earlier. And now, some 40 years later, the government has apparently learned via LSD how to cure criminals of their EVIL ways.
Oh! ye troubled souls, Dr. Frankenstein is taking appointments from 9 to 5!
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41 comments:
Damned weird ass supernatural ginger (redheads ain't normal folk) ooEEoo
Robert,
I'm glad you posted this. I'm bad at recognizing faces. Please identify the man on one knee in the pink or faded red shirt.
Patty,
I'm still bad at faces. What's up with the new avatar and which one is you?
orwhut, the one you are asking about is Chuck "Chuckleberry" Lovett. He didn't come along until after the murders.
Thank you, Matt. I've been trying to figure out who he was for a long time.
Am I supposed to be seeing a face in the woods, or are you talking about the guy by Capistrano?
Yes Ann, it's the guy directly behind Cappy.
Whut: this is the infamous photo of Panamint and Gluten Free Patty with Attorney General Ed Meese in DC, 1986. President Reagan is the portrait over all our heads. Patty digs the irony.
Robert, there are a couple of other shady figures that get mentioned from time to time, like "Kevin" who is naked in the desert with Gypsy in some footage you took.
Also Patty can't remember who said it, but that there were men in black (CIA? FBI? DEA? ATF? LOL?) snooping around right after? Patty is not referring to Garretson's wild tale, there was something else.
Can you say anything about either?
Hey, it's Ginger Baker of CREAM. . . . Na, just kidding.....
Patty,
Thanks for clearing that up.
Whut
I think Manson said he liked red-haired girls because they were stupid and easily manipulated. Don't know what he thought about red-haired guys. Patty, redheads ain't normal? As a redhead, I'm offended LOL.
Carol...hee hee
from Urban Dictionary:
ginger
A rare natural hair colour which inspires odd and sometimes fearful reactions from the more common coloured hair types. Typically redheads are believed to be more sexual than normal, highly artistic, fierce fighters, and to have a greater tolerance for pain than average. The sun is their only real enemy. Decendants of vikings. The Romans were said to have put red haired males born in the empire into training as soldiers since they were believed to be fierce warriors. Rome also gave up on taking Ireland due to the number of redheads they saw there.
Women with ginger hair are greatly admired in the US yet feared in the UK.
Being called a "Ginger" is an insult in England but laughable in the US.
Glad to see you are having such fun with this, Patty :)
With Ed Meese, or gingers, or both, Matt?
I guess this is an inside joke y'all aren't going to share?
Patty, yes the sun is my enemy! I'm descended from Vikings? Now that's interesting. I know that the British constantly make fun of "gingers" which is strange because Scotland and Ireland have so many of them. I would think England does, too.
Not really inside: Recently Matt and Patty were having a discussion about gingers, and Matt didn't know what that meant. We got into a funny convo about it off line.
As for the Ed Meese thing, one of Patty's "secret contacts" exclaimed to Patty that Ed Meese is the evilest man of the 20th century. He's Jewish, and he did not say Hitler? Dad Patty never liked Meese. Mom Patty thought he was THE BOMB.
This photo is also one that asshat stalkerman pulled off of facebook because "her eyes look weird." So that's kind of funny, too.
The English make fun of Gingers because they ARE Scottish and Irish!
Patty has a joke for ya. Three men in a pub are enjoying a cold beer on a warm day. There's an Englishman, an Irishman and a Scot. Since it's warm in the pub, some flies have gathered there, and one has landed in each of the men's pints.
The Englishman calls the barkeep over, and says "There's a fly in my pint: pour a new one for us, would you?
The Irishman pulls the fly out of his pint, flings it aside, and proceeds to enjoy his drink.
The Scot picks the fly in his pint up by its hind legs, shakes it vigorously and shouts, "Spit it out, ye bastard!"
from https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/cocaine/contra-story/pilots.html#6
"The seven individuals identified through DEA and Customs trace responses as suspected drug traffickers who were employed by Vortex/Universal were:
•Joseph Haas
•Donaldo Frixone
•Martin H. Gomez
•Martin Alberto Gomez
•Irving Silva
•Mauricio Letona
•Stephen Herreros.
According to information DEA provided to CIA on April 28, 1987, Haas, Frixone, Silva, and Stephen Herreros had been implicated with Michael Palmer in a September 1986 drug smuggling incident in northern Mexico involving 19,000 pounds of marijuana destined for the United States. The DEA response also reported that Haas, Frixone and Martin Alberto Gomez had been crew members on the DC-6 that was involved in the March 1987 incident at Miami International Airport."
From http://www.slabbed.org/2010/02/19/so-ed-meese-wants-to-talk-conservative-values/
"According to surviving family members the get out of jail free card Mr Haas used at extract himself from that “March 1987 incident at Miami International Airport” was Ed Meese’s direct telephone number."
"The English make fun of Gingers because they ARE Scottish and Irish!"
Makes sense, Patty! Love the joke, too.
Although I have been far removed from such things for decades now, it still somehow breaks my heart a little bit when I hear "19,000 pounds of marijuana" gone to waste.
Scotland has 13% redheads Ireland 9%. The highest percentages in the world. I read it on the internet so, it has to be true.
Hate to ask a question that I should know the answer to, but who is the gentleman behind Sandy?
And Robert, I sure am enjoying your posts, your films and books are beyond definitive and am so pleased you made them available. Thanks.
Rick,
A while back, I decided the big guy was Kevin. The Kevin ar the following link.
http://www.mansonblog.com/2012/12/q-on-manson-gang.html
Someone might know better.
Yes, that's Kevin. The 3 men in the back row are Clem, Kevin and "Ginger".
Hello RH,
Thanks for the great post.
Appt. with Dr. Frankenstein....at my age I might can stand a little cleaning......but never a full purge.
Hello RH,
Thanks for the great post.
Appt. with Dr. Frankenstein....at my age I might can stand a little cleaning......but never a full purge.
I few months ago, I didn't even know that red heads were called "gingers." I had always known them to be friendly, kind and super intelligent. But more recently, a well known radio comentator talked about his being called a "ginger." etc, etc. How could I have missed that one? AND now you folks are revealing that red headed men are fierce fighters, brave, etc. Of course, desendants of the Vikings, who long ago invaded Ireland and Scottland. I mean, we 're talking about the worlds' first great explorers.
AND now we're talking about a "red headed" man who - all by him self - ventured into the most dangerous "Gang" in the WORLD and let THEM perform their THEIR ultra-scary LSD brain control process on HIM. AND HE then walked away with the knowledge of how IT works. I am a Viking desendant and I thought I was brave for venturing into the heart of the infamous MANSON Family, BUT this "Ginger" as you all call them has got to be the bravest mother-fucker who EVER got that close to the MANSON Gang. I wouldn't even get NEAR their LSD process.
NOW, can YOU guess who he might have been?
PS. Do you know anthing about the people whos names end in "son" ?
Eric the Red had a son named Lief who came to America before Columbus. Lief was Eric's son and I've often wondered whether he was the first to use the last name Ericson.
I think the term "ginger" is used mostly in the UK. I've never been called a ginger here in the US. We just say redhead. Elvis used to call Ann-Margret "Rusty" because of her red hair. Love that!
George Carlin used to say, "I guess the name Rusty never caught on in China."
Remember Ginger from Gilligan's Island? Redhead. Fake, but red.
TWO CLUES
Here's 2 thoughts, not necessarily related to this post:
Who are the "bottom" feeders in most every society?
What does an "open" kitchen have to do with the Manson Family and murder?
In an open kitchen a mother can always see what her children are doing. In an open kitchen the mom has no privacy. The kids can always see what she's doing and hear what she's saying, either to someone else or on the phone. Just read an article yesterday about open kitchens and why designers hate them.
Carol, interesting tht you intepreted "open kitchen" to mean open design. Before Patty ready your comment, her mind immediately went to soup kitchen, free Digger kitchen. Both interpretations are plausible.
Now. Robert, our friend: which did you mean? Patty has a feeling that you meant both answers AND neither answer. Patty thinks maybe you are merely being provocative, demonstrating a principle and not a hard fact, that truth is relative, that education in our society takes many forms.
Patty also believes that you will leave Carol and I hanging until next June. LOL
Patty, it was such a coincidence that just yesterday I read an article on how much designers hate open kitchens. But I really don't know what Robert means by "open kitchen."
CarolMR
I think that article was featured on Yahoo's home page. I saw it but didn't click.
Carol is right and in George Spahn's "ranch" house, there was an "open: kitchen where the girls cooking could overHEAR everything. (RE: George, Retz, Shorty, etc.)
The "bottom" feeders; now there's a clue to not only the Manson Family situation, but American society as a whole. "Death to BOTTOM feeders" - does that make more sense?
To Fiona: It costs us $25 to send either the DVDs or the Book with the DVDs USPS "Flat rate" Priority Mail to Europe and that is the only "safe" way for us to ship to Europe, Austrailia, Canada, and the UK. Unfortunately, some in Norway think posting our films on their "pirate" websites is COOL. Contrary to what many folks think, we have not made ka-zillions $$ on our MANSON media products and the DVD market as a whole is dying rapidly. The "revival" movie theater business is growing though (our Cine Family showings were a huge sucess) and thus that may be an avenue for us to take in the future.
Carol: WOOT!
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