I could care less about this sloppy Bastid- but how he went from the kid in this picture- to the weird looking slob with the crazy grin in the M Documentary- is probably a very good story....
I actually did see a few minutes of that lol he looked really fat- but his hair was the same... I didn't hear him speak- only saw it online for a few seconds...
he is a scary looking bastard... but ya know what- when push came to shove- he wouldn't kill anyone- even at the expense of having to split. Tex said some good things about him ( not that he is a great character reference) So maybe he looked worse than he really was?? Who knows- all I do know is that in nothing I have ever read- was he arrested for anything- so who knows?
see ~ that is why i wanted to show the pic's of him. told ya, i have some good ones- i am not putting up the same old crap you can see any place.
these are pics you will NEVER see any where else (until someone steals them from me and re-posts them). we can finally see someones life pre-M. plus i think T.J. was a good part of the equation.
From this picture, TJ looks like the All-American boy. Then came the 60's, the Viet Nam war, the drugs, the Manson crowd. Life beats the shit out of everybody. Some more than others.
Well he sure looked a whole lot better as a young man going off to Nam! Wonder how many tours he did? He must of done several tours to end up looking so bad. Name did that.
i think Tj was one of those that went to war but came back very anti-war & anti-establishment. i do give him credit for not shooting Crowe. if only the others would have followed their better instincts.
According to Bugs book- he was supposed to pull a gun from the back of charlies jeans and do the shooting, but wouldn't do it- leaving Charlie to do it himself.
He fled the ranch very soon after this when Charlie gave him a hard time.
When Charlie was in jail- he showed back up- and can be seen in the Hendrickson documentary. IN the scenes where Mary is being interviewed near the beginning- He is the grinning guy with the funky haircut kneeling next to her rubbing her hands while she talks...
I could care less about this sloppy Bastid- but how he went from the kid in this picture- to the weird looking slob with the crazy grin in the M Documentary- is probably a very good story....
ReplyDeleteYa think drugs were involved? :)
Try watching Geraldo's cheezy failure of a Manson Family Reunion. I think that was around 1993. He barely made sense.
ReplyDeleteSomeone tell these old bastards that drugs are for kids!
I actually did see a few minutes of that lol he looked really fat- but his hair was the same... I didn't hear him speak- only saw it online for a few seconds...
ReplyDeletehe is a scary looking bastard... but ya know what- when push came to shove- he wouldn't kill anyone- even at the expense of having to split. Tex said some good things about him ( not that he is a great character reference) So maybe he looked worse than he really was?? Who knows- all I do know is that in nothing I have ever read- was he arrested for anything- so who knows?
see ~ that is why i wanted to show the pic's of him. told ya,
ReplyDeletei have some good ones-
i am not putting up the same old crap you can see any place.
these are pics you will NEVER see any where else (until someone steals them from me and re-posts them). we can finally see someones life pre-M. plus i think T.J. was a good part of the equation.
From this picture, TJ looks like the All-American boy. Then came the 60's, the Viet Nam war, the drugs, the Manson crowd. Life beats the shit out of everybody. Some more than others.
ReplyDeleteWell he sure looked a whole lot better as a young man going off to Nam! Wonder how many tours he did? He must of done several tours to end up looking so bad. Name did that.
ReplyDeletei think Tj was one of those that went to war but came back very anti-war & anti-establishment.
ReplyDeletei do give him credit for not shooting Crowe. if only the others
would have followed their better instincts.
Who, please, is again TJ ?
ReplyDeleteangeLos
TJ Wallerman... TJ "The Terrible"
ReplyDeleteHe was with Charlie when he shot Bernard Crowe...
According to Bugs book- he was supposed to pull a gun from the back of charlies jeans and do the shooting, but wouldn't do it- leaving Charlie to do it himself.
He fled the ranch very soon after this when Charlie gave him a hard time.
When Charlie was in jail- he showed back up- and can be seen in the Hendrickson documentary. IN the scenes where Mary is being interviewed near the beginning- He is the grinning guy with the funky haircut kneeling next to her rubbing her hands while she talks...
Thanks St.
ReplyDeleteangeLos
Any time....
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