The trademark of the Manson girls is that for all the trouble they may be in, they never seem bothered by it. You see them playful and vamping for photographers. Many of them smile for their mugshots. I would be scared to death. They some crazy girls.
These chics were starved for attention- and they were getting plenty of it back then- some of them literally crawled across the street - and I would bet you it was as much for the cameras as it was for Charlie...
The act was unreal- by most accounts Katie and LULU weren't even speaking to Susan during the trial- but every time the lights and cameras came on- they clasped hands and put on the smiles. Signing tunes- happy as peas in a pod...
i have seen the son as recent as 2010 - he looks mostly like Gypsy than anything. i remember that interview he did years ago he kinda looked like Little Paul back then, but not anymore. Little Paul defected 9/69, but if he went back and forth between the Family and Crockett and he and Gypsy remained "friends w/benefits", it could be Little Pauls. this is gonna drive me crazy. i used Mark Turner's "time line" provided on his site to figure alot of the dates. it cant be Bobbys or Charlies or Tex's. Tex boogied out of there to TX in 11 of 69. there are still quite a few men left when you think about it. TJ,Dennis Rice,Little Larry, DeCarlo, George Spahn. the possibilites are endless. i betcha SHE dosnt even know who the father is!
from what I saw in Inside the Manson GAng film Gypsy was pregnant( quite big) long before this pic and when girls on corner hair long Brenda talked baout how state wanted to take gypsys baby so I dont think she is pregnant here (just my thoughts)
Hi, just found this site. Great, so up-to-date. I have some good stuff to add, but got to re-do it and now I am off to bed. I just wanted to comment on this Mary picture. Bugliosi, ever the gent, described her as 'exceptionally unattractive' and the stills usually back that up, so I was struck the first time I saw her on film to see what a naturally graceful person she was. Just one of those people who are petite and delicate and who move beautifully. It's a rare quality. Most girls over-pose, just like lady-boys. These pics have caught her grace, a little. Made me think of how Manson gained and kept and totally held his girls, how he could bring out a beauty others had not bothered to appreciate in a time before feminism had liberated women to assert their own beauty. No wonder Mary adored him. An ignored insulted drying-up librarian can blossom in Charlie's desert. "He let us be beautiful," Squeaky said. Susan said he told her: "You are perfect. You have always been perfect." Anyway, the pics just reminded me of how surprised I was when I saw Mary on film and it gave me more insight. I must go to bed. Good-night, I will check this great forum often. I hope not to be randomly excluded which seemed to happen on Col's blog and I swear up and down I do not know why. I scarcely commented more than twice and they were insights, not opinions. Weird. But you, eviliz, seem to have the sense of the evil, so I am hopeful.
The trademark of the Manson girls is that for all the trouble they may be in, they never seem bothered by it. You see them playful and vamping for photographers. Many of them smile for their mugshots. I would be scared to death. They some crazy girls.
ReplyDeletei know right. i would be crying.
ReplyDeleteThese chics were starved for attention- and they were getting plenty of it back then- some of them literally crawled across the street - and I would bet you it was as much for the cameras as it was for Charlie...
ReplyDeleteThe act was unreal- by most accounts Katie and LULU weren't even speaking to Susan during the trial- but every time the lights and cameras came on- they clasped hands and put on the smiles. Signing tunes- happy as peas in a pod...
They some crazy girls is right!!
Gypsy kinda looks pregnant in this pic. to lazy to do the math though.
ReplyDeleteshe must have been pregnant as she claims grogan was the daddy unless it was a guard, attorney, etc that got her pregnant
ReplyDeletestill dk who the babydaddy is
ReplyDeletesomeone else needs to figure it out.
did the math
ReplyDeleteshe got pregnant sometime in april of 1970
Phoenix was born 1/5/71
hawthorne 8/21/71
barker ranch raid was 10/12/69
ReplyDeleteeither 6/70 or 7/70 clem plead guilty to auto theft, if he was roaming free before 6/70 not locked up it is possible clem could be the father.
i have seen the son as recent as 2010 - he looks mostly like Gypsy than anything. i remember that interview he did years ago he kinda looked like Little Paul back then, but not anymore. Little Paul defected 9/69, but if he went back and forth between the Family and Crockett and he and Gypsy remained "friends w/benefits", it could be Little Pauls. this is gonna drive me crazy. i used Mark Turner's "time line" provided on his site to figure alot of the dates. it cant be Bobbys or Charlies or Tex's. Tex boogied out of there to TX in 11 of 69. there are still quite a few men left when you think about it. TJ,Dennis Rice,Little Larry, DeCarlo, George Spahn. the possibilites are endless.
ReplyDeletei betcha SHE dosnt even know who the father is!
and when did Como come into play?
ReplyDeletefrom what I saw in Inside the Manson GAng film Gypsy was pregnant( quite big) long before this pic and when girls on corner hair long Brenda talked baout how state wanted to take gypsys baby so I dont think she is pregnant here (just my thoughts)
ReplyDeleteHi, just found this site. Great, so up-to-date. I have some good stuff to add, but got to re-do it and now I am off to bed.
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to comment on this Mary picture. Bugliosi, ever the gent, described her as 'exceptionally unattractive' and the stills usually back that up, so I was struck the first time I saw her on film to see what a naturally graceful person she was. Just one of those people who are petite and delicate and who move beautifully. It's a rare quality. Most girls over-pose, just like lady-boys. These pics have caught her grace, a little.
Made me think of how Manson gained and kept and totally held his girls, how he could bring out a beauty others had not bothered to appreciate in a time before feminism had liberated women to assert their own beauty. No wonder Mary adored him. An ignored insulted drying-up librarian can blossom in Charlie's desert.
"He let us be beautiful," Squeaky said. Susan said he told her: "You are perfect. You have always been perfect."
Anyway, the pics just reminded me of how surprised I was when I saw Mary on film and it gave me more insight.
I must go to bed. Good-night, I will check this great forum often. I hope not to be randomly excluded which seemed to happen on Col's blog and I swear up and down I do not know why. I scarcely commented more than twice and they were insights, not opinions. Weird.
But you, eviliz, seem to have the sense of the evil, so I am hopeful.