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While doing some research trying to locate any and all evaluations on Tex Watson that may have been released through the APA to see if he ever received any diagnosis of a mental illness or disorder. I came across this.
And it referred me to this book:
I was kind of excited to come across this book because I am familiar with both authors. William J. Winslade is a expert in law when it comes to psychiatric and the psychological use of the " Insanity Plea" and Judith wrote many of the books that are used in hospital ethics.
In the California legal system, pursuing the "Insanity defense" is a high - stakes game. It is an "affirmative defense" which means the defendant must first admit to committing the criminal acts before arguing they should not be held responsible for it. Because of this, if the plea fails, the prior admission almost guarantees a conviction. Furthermore a successful peal of "not guilty by the reason of insanity" often leads to immediate, involuntary commitment to a secure medical hospital with no certainty of release, potentially exceeding the length of a standard prison sentence.
In order to use "The Insanity Plea" in the California legal system, the defense must prove, by clear and convincing evidence, that a mental illness or defect rendered the defendant unable to understand the nature of their act and recognize the act as morally wrong. to determine the defendant's state of mind, psychiatric experts are tasked with addressing three legal questions regarding capacity. The court does not require the expert to state whether the defendant did in fact harbor these states, but rather they possessed the mental capacity to do so.
These questions are;
1. Malice Aforethought: Did the defendant have the mental capacity to harbor the specific intent to kill?
2. Mature Reflection: Did the defendant have the capacity to maturely and meaningfully reflect upon the gravity of the contemplated intent to kill?
3. Premeditation and Deliberation: Did the defendant have the capacity to carefully weigh and plan the killings.
The high "Burden of Proof" makes this defense notoriously hard to win. Juries often view this plea as a "loophole" and remain deeply skeptical of psychiatric testimony, which they frequently perceive as confusing or inconsistent. Because the legal standards for insanity are so rigorous and specific, the courtroom becomes a stage where the specialized knowledge of psychiatric experts is essential to interpreting the capacities of the defendants mind.
BUT let us take a small look at the demeanor of Watson when on drugs.
This letter is from the Ed Sanders files written by Paul Fitzgerald to Sam Bubrick. It is worth noting that Patricia and Leslie expressed fear of Watson when he was on drugs and "with Tex you just didn't know what was inside, it was very scary ( Fitzgerald or the person who typed the letter misspelled "scary") and Fitzgerald said he "wouldn't like to be alone with Tex." This alludes that yes, Watson indeed had the capacity to kill. It's important because Watson is portrayed as dangerous because others could not predict what he might do. It also shows how the "family" discussed drug use.
by LINA DAS (link to article)
A new book on Roman Polanski's tumultuous life missed a final secret. Here, the man who was his wife's lover in the months before her bizarre murder tells his story for the first time
She was the wife of director Roman Polanski, a star of the cult movie Valley Of The Dolls, and with her flawless blonde looks was lauded as one of the great beauties of her time, but even to this day the actress Sharon Tate is remembered primarily for the horrific manner of her death.
On August 9, 1969, while at home with friends, Tate was murdered by the followers of Charles Manson's gang in Los Angeles.
Tate was eight months pregnant with Polanski's baby at the time, and yet her attackers paid little heed, stabbing her 16 times and murdering the four friends who were with her - Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, Steven Parent and Voyteck Frykowski.
It was a night of inexplicable horror and sent reverberations not only through the Hollywood community, but throughout the world.
The events have been endlessly discussed, even by Roman Polanski, who finds himself the subject of yet another biography - Polanski by Christopher Sandford - to be published next week.
But throughout all this, there has been one aspect of Sharon Tate's story of which even Polanski has not been fully aware - her relationship with the actor Christopher Jones.
Most famous for his role as Major Randolph Doryan in David Lean's epic, Ryan's Daughter, Jones embarked on an affair with Tate when she was six weeks pregnant with Polanski's child and has not, until now, spoken fully of their relationship.
He says: "I loved Sharon and she loved me.
"I don't think I'm betraying any confidence by talking about it.
"I knew that she was married to Roman and I had no intention of splitting them up.
"I don't feel guilty."
Now aged 66, Christopher has retained his looks, although it is clear that the intervening years haven't always been kind to him.
We meet in the dimly lit environs of Nic's Restaurant in Beverly Hills. Slightly built, a touch gaunt of face and softly spoken, he chats openly but doesn't eat or drink throughout the twohour meeting (the reason why becoming apparent only towards the end).
He has managed to cram an awful lot into his life, including a marriage to actress Susan Strasberg (daughter of acting coach, Lee Strasberg), countless lovers (including actresses Olivia Hussey and Susan George, "who came up to my apartment when I was staying in London and the next day moved her toothbrush in, so I had to say, no way!"), seven children and a couple of brushes with death.
That he is still here to tell the tale is a testimony to his powers of survival.
When he was cast to star in Ryan's Daughter, Jones was already being heralded as the new James Dean after his role in the cult movie Wild In The Streets opposite Shelley Winters.
There was a huge buzz surrounding him - a factor which partly explains why so American an actor (Jones was born in Tennessee) should have been chosen to play so English a role, in the shape of Major Doryan.
Set in Ireland's Dingle Peninsula, the story follows Rosy (Sarah Miles), the wife of schoolmaster Charles Shaughnessy (Robert Mitchum), who has an affair with the dashing English officer Doryan, who arrives to take command of the local Army base.
The affair has tragic consequences for Doryan, a veteran of World War I who is suffering from shell shock, and it was Ryan's Daughter which brought Jones to the attention of the British cinema-going public at large.
More pertinently though, it was while Jones was in Ireland during the year-long filming schedule that he received the news of his former lover Sharon Tate's murder.
After filming on Ryan's Daughter was completed, Jones gave up acting for 26 years.
One wonders why he chooses to talk of Tate now.
He insists it is "partly because I want to see if God strikes me dead for talking about it.
"I loved being with her. Other women I've been with, I couldn't remember if my life depended on it, but she stuck in my mind."
The couple started their affair in Rome in 1969 while Jones was filming the movie Brief Season with his then lover, actress Pia Degermark. Tate, who was flying out to Rome with her friend, Jones's manager Rudy, had by then been married to Roman for a year.
Polanski, the Paris-born director of horror film Rosemary's Baby, was brilliant and troubled (his mother had died in a Nazi-run camp in German-occulied Poland) and he later gained a reputation for controversy when he was convicted of the statutory rape of a 13-year- old girl in 1977.
But in March 1969, "Sharon arrived in Rome with my manager," says Jones, "and so we all arranged to go out to dinner that night. We were on the patio, waiting for Sharon, when suddenly she appeared.
"She looked amazing.
"We sat next to each other and she was very nervous, almost like a deer, but she had this beautiful, perfect face. She had this little scar on the left of her face against all this perfection, and when I reached over to touch it, I could feel her react.
"She kept talking about off-the-wall spiritual things - she talked about reincarnation and how in a previous life she had died in a fire aged nine.
"The second she said that, the doors to the restaurant blew open even though there wasn't any wind, and she looked really shocked."
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But he adds: "I wasn't planning on anything because I knew she was married to Roman."
Later that evening however, Jones found himself in Tate's room.
"We were sitting on the couch talking when I finally asked her where Roman was. She said he was stuck in London having trouble with his passport.
"We were talking and getting closer, and although her skirt was riding right up, she wasn't bothering to pull it down.
"She then said: 'Chris, have you ever smoked opium?' and I told her no, and she said I had to try it and that she had some in the bedroom.
"Everyone says that Sharon didn't smoke pot, yet she was definitely looking for this bag, but couldn't find it so came back over to me, standing by the bed.
"One minute she was looking at me and the next thing I knew, she was pulling me on top of her on to the bed.
"I hadn't even taken my clothes off but after we'd made love I told her I was going upstairs to sleep. She asked me to stay, but when I looked out the window I couldn't see a fire escape and my first thought then was: 'What if Polanski comes back?'.
"I wasn't afraid of him, just worried about the repercussions, but she stopped asking me to stay and I left.
"The next day I ran into actress Nathalie Delon (wife of actor Alain Delon) who was a friend of Sharon's and whom I had also been seeing, and she said: 'Chris, what did you do to Sharon? She has never been so in love.'
"Yes, I knew Sharon was pregnant and of course I felt guilty about that, but I've thought about this a lot since and the marriage vows say: 'What God joins together, let no man put asunder.'
"Well, God obviously separated them and put me there."
Jones and Tate continued to see each other, and although he might have been infatuated with Tate, it didn't stop him conducting simultaneous affairs with Pia Degermark and his former wife Susan.
"They all knew about each other.
"Well, maybe Susan didn't know about Sharon, but I had a little too much on my plate, and even that wasn't enough.
"One night, we were out at dinner and there was an Italian girl there. All I can say is that I was young, had a high libido and no conscience, and I just wanted to figure out a way for my manager to take Sharon back to the hotel so I could see the Italian girl.
"After I'd been with her, I came back to the hotel and tried Sharon's door which was open.
"I thought she was going to be mad at me but she didn't say anything, and after we'd made love, she whispered in my ear: 'That was the wrong way.'
"That stuck in my mind because the way we made love wasn't gentle, it was lustful, and although she wanted it to be more romantic, I wasn't feeling romantic.
"I felt that she was a woman I'd been living with for a while, whom you sneak back in on in the middle of the night.
"She didn't seem the least bit concerned about Roman, so either I was irresistible or she must have been unhappy. Although she seemed very happy that she was pregnant.
"I worried professionally in case I might have to work with Roman in the future.
"There was probably some guilt on my part there, in the way that any man would think to themselves: 'I deserve to be shot'."
Given the evil manner of Tate's death, some of Jones's recollections about his former lover take on an eerie significance.
"One night we went to visit the Trevi Fountain, and I looked at her and had the strongest feeling she was going to die.
"Another time I was looking over at her and asking her what she was thinking about, and she suddenly came out with: 'The Devil is beautiful. Most people think he's ugly, but he's not.'
"I thought it weird at the time but Roman had just done the movie Rosemary's Baby so I related it to that.
"I told her she shouldn't say things like that because it made me nervous.
"I knew that she and Roman lived in quite an isolated place in LA, so I told her that for her own protection she should have a gun, but she said that she could never shoot anyone even if she had one."
Of the last night they spent together in Rome, Jones says: "I told her that we'd get back together when we were in America and she agreed, and when I said: 'What about Roman?', she said: 'Don't worry about Roman.'
"I didn't envisage that she would leave Roman; I didn't envisage anything.
"I thought it was love. Whatever brief time we had together, we were very happy. I always expected to see her again."
Jones went from Rome to Dingle to begin shooting on Ryan's Daughter and Tate returned to LA.
"When she got there, she called my manager a couple of times," says Jones, "but she didn't ask to talk to me, which got me a little p****d off. But I was just getting on with my life."
Getting on with his life included embarking on an affair with Olivia Hussey, whom he had seen in the movie Romeo And Juliet.
"I saw Olivia's beautiful face up on screen and I asked my manager if he could arrange for us to meet, and so we started seeing each other.
"Olivia wanted to come to Ireland with me, so she did. That's what was happening when I heard about Sharon's murder."
The call came to the hotel in Ireland where Jones was staying.
"One of my other managers took it. When he hung up, he told me that everyone in the house had been murdered. At first, I didn't have a strong reaction because I was so stunned.
"Only slowly did it hit me, and then it hit me hard. I was pretty disoriented. I couldn't make sense of it, that someone that beautiful and young had to die like that."
Jones remained in shock for much of the filming of Ryan's Daughter, a state noted by his co-star Sarah Miles in the second volume of her memoirs, Serves Me Right.
Miles makes frequent mention of Jones's erratic behaviour during filming, and paints a picture of an actor who was pretty much a loner.
Most embarrassing of all, she describes the tortuous making of the film's pivotal love scene, where a lacklustre Jones was given a potion concocted by a chemist "to help matters considerably" and increase his sexual enthusiasm for Miles on screen.
"I was feeling weird," says Jones, "I attributed that to an accident I had had in my Ferrari or to Sharon's death, but I had no idea they had drugged me."
Did Miles ever make a pass at Jones (the scene in the bluebell wood was one of the raunchiest lovemaking scenes of its time, after all)?
"No, but Sarah was getting more jealous as the filming wore on.
"In that first scene where I'm pushing her up against the wall, as much as she said she didn't feel anything, she was gone.
"I read some of Sarah's book - I didn't like the part where she called me a midget and inferred I was a homosexual. During the shoot I hung out with Olivia.
"We were going to get married at one point, but my manager talked me out of it - I'm sure he was thinking of finances when he did - and after that, Olivia and I didn't talk much either.
"It was a difficult shoot, and after Ryan's Daughter I gave up acting because I realised I hated it."
Jones finally accepted a small role in the 1996 film Mad Dog Time.
In the interim, he lived on the money he had made from his movies and pursued a successful career as an artist (his painting of Rudolph Valentino hangs in the famous Hollywood Forever Cemetery).
In the 1990s, Quentin Tarantino approached Jones for a part in Pulp Fiction, "It was for the part of Zed the Gimp and my girlfriend at the time read it and said: 'You're not doing this - it's disgusting.' So I didn't."
Jones has had seven children by four women, and one son, Timothy, was convicted of the involuntary manslaughter of his mother, actress Susan Cabot.
Further problems ensued in 1996 when Christopher ingested "something caustic" and was taken to hospital.
"The doctors thought I'd tried to kill myself, which I hadn't," he says. "The medical report said I'd died in the ambulance, but somehow, I managed to survive."
The internal damage was so severe he now has to take all nutrients through a syringe connected to his stomach.
"I shouldn't drink, but occasionally I'll pour shots into the syringe.'"
He adds: "I've had a complicated life, but I've enjoyed it.
"It's not like Sharon's always preying on my mind, but if I see something about her on TV, it all comes flooding back."
THANKS MILLIE!
"The flower-covered corpse" by Michael Avallone c.1969, a paperback
novel published before TLB, seems to have many odd parallels
to the Manson/TLB story.

"The first bad vibration came when a famous Guru was found swinging on a Greenwhich Village meat hook. The next arrived when someone used a bomb to blow more than hippies minds. The summer of love was over, and the only trace of flower power was the scent of poppies. The only way Ed Noon could turn off a turned-on killer was to take the ultimate trip to the depths of the Underground, where speed, sex and Satanism ruled supreme, and everyone was cool. Especially the corpses."
In modern conspiracy theory parlance, a "synchronicity" is an image, usually in the form of a movie or a TV show, that eerily seems to presage a spectacular crime that occurs not long after.
Another name for this phenomenon is "Predictive Programming"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#Predictive_programming
"Many theorists allege that the contents of fictional media, in a process called "predictive programming",
are manipulated to reference planned false flags, technological
innovations, social changes, and other future events. These references
are understood to be a conditioning and brainwashing tool, such that the
public becomes more accepting of these events than they would be
otherwise. Predictive programming theories have been used to explain
events such as the September 11 attacks, COVID-19 pandemic, and the
assassination of Charlie Kirk and connected with media such as Die Hard,
The Simpsons, Contagion, and anime such as Blue Gender."
A famous example is the episode of the "Lone Gunmen" TV show, where the terrorists plan to fly a plane into the twin towers--aired before 9/11!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmmOVSmmdwk
pg98
"False
prophet or misguided bunkum artist, he had obviously been somewhat on
the side of the angels. Anybody who says no to the Black Muslims ....
pg112
"I tried not to think about the sliced-up millionaire in Larchmont, lying on his green lawn, spouting red blood like a water fountain."
pg113
"Yes, I'm his girl. And I don't care if he's twice my age. He's the dearest, sweetest man I ever met and no wise remarks from you will ever make me change my mind..."
pg121
"That kid... He got rough last night. Two other kids with him."
pg123
"The chimes sang out in a fluted, oddly melodic rending of something recognizable. .. It was the Beatles...."
pg187
"Joe... and his two flower friends were having their LSD trip right in front of us."
There are also multiple references to a drug burn being tied in with the case.
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A mass murder, a communal kill, a famous guru, young loves half his age, hippies, naked teenagers, sex orgies, LSD, speed, satanism, pistols, knives, swords, leather thongs, bloody bodies lying on the lawn, a drug burn, the Black Muslims, and the Beatles.
And it's all supposed to be just a big coincidence? I think there's more to it.
oo-ee-oo!
Several months ago, George Stimson and I collaborated on a video analyzing the blood evidence from the murders at 10050 Cielo drive. Our goal was simple. Challenge the long-standing claim that the blood on the porch floor belonged to Jay Sebring and Sharon Tate-Polanski, and explore the possibility that Voytek Frykowski had been mistyped. Contrary that what people assume, I didn't take any theory to George. It emerged from many conversations where we both kept circling back to the same conclusion: something about the blood typing simply didn't add up. In all reality, George deserves the credit for everything in the video he put out, because this is a thought that has been circulating in his mind for years, and when we spoke about it many times, it kept coming back to the typing not making any sense. It was his long hours of research, and I helped him with things medically that he wasn't aware of. Those that do know me know I am a Nurse Practitioner, such as blood types exist differently in different locations. For anyone that wants to refute that, then you don't understand the simple fact as to why we have blood drives, and I also pointed out to him major inconsistencies in the reports.
You can watch the video here:
After our video came out, TabOrFresca (I hope I got that correct) made a call in to Twilight Garage, and it was weird, not in a bad way, it was like TF was in on the conversations George and I were having behind the scenes.
That video can be seen here:
To boil this down, one of the most glaring inconsistencies is this:
If Voytek Frykowski was type B, where is his blood? In over 50 years, no participant in the murders of Jay Sebring, Sharon Tate-Polanski, Steven Parent, Abigail Folger, and Voytek Frykowski haver ever placed Tate-Polanski and Sebing on the porch. In contrast, statements and testimony from Susan Atkins, Tex Watson, and Linda Kasabian consistently place Voytek there.
This aligns with the initial police interpretation in the First Tate Homicide Progress Report which describes two large untyped pools of blood near Frykowski's attempted escape, suggesting that the paused or struggled in those two locations. Near one of those blood pools, investigators noted a purple scarf as identified as Type O.
Near Frykowski... (credit to Michelle for finding it in this photo IF that is it. looks to be. But it's not visible in the other shots of his body including the bodies being covered and the police on the lawn.)
You can read the article here;
Keypoints of the article are;
"Courtroom observers were left with another puzzle from Granada's testimony. He identified a larger pool of blood found on the front walk as being the same type as Mr. Sebring's O-MN. The other three victims, Abigail Folger, a coffee heiress, Voytek Frykowski, a polish writer and producer, and Steven Parent, an 18-year old friend of Miss Tate's housekeeper (though William was not the housekeeper of the main house, thought I would add that) all had blood types B-MN. Mrs. Linda Kasabian, the states principal witness testified previously that she had seen Mr. Frykowski stagger, bleeding, from the front door and fall in the area of the blood stained walk. Mrs. Kasabian said that Charles D. Watson pounced on him there and continued to beat and stab him. Mr. Frykowski's body was found on the lawn.
This is consistent with Atkins earliest of statements and other statements made there after. For example, in her 12/1/1969 interview with Richard Caballero and Caruso, she states, "I don't remember what exactly happened. I remember seeing Frykowski going outside, he was yelling for his life. he was screaming really loud and I said, Tex, help me, do something. Tex went over and hit him 5 or 6 times over the head with the butt of the gun (blood type O-MN), broke the gun handle, the gun wouldn't work anymore, and proceeded to stab him. While he was stabbing the man was still screaming, I'm surprised nobody heard anything. And he was pretty much half dead on the porch, that's why all the blood was there I imagine.
But you may say, type B was found on the gun? That is true. But lets look at recollection.
Atkins described Watson stabbing Folger inside the residence before returning outside to continue attacking Frykowski. This sequence provides a logical explanation. Folger's blood could have transfered to the gun via Watson's hands.
The blood smears on Sharon Tate-Polanski can easily be explained through statement's Watson made to Bill Boyd. I made this analysis from the John Hurst article who heard some of the "Tex Watson Tapes"
Hurst wrote " As he describes the shooting and stabbing slaughter of five victims, Watson's voice on the tape remains emotionless. His tone is almost disinterested as he tells of murdering Miss Tate, who was eight months pregnant. "I went back inside," he says on the tape recording. " and she was the only one...left that was alive, the Tate girl. She was pleading to me, pleading to me and pleading to me, but I didn't have a moment of hesitation. I took a knife and just slit a big slit across her face, you know, it was all lighting up to me" he continues "just like a big acid trip, all these colors and everything, and I just kept cutting her and carving on the body and started stabbing her in the chest from here up."
"How many times did you stab her?" asks Boyd
"I'd say maybe 15 cuts and stabs" is the matter of fact reply.
You can read the article here;
Conclusion
A reassessment of the evidence indicates the most coherent explanation, and the most logical one, is that Voytek Frykowski's blood type was incorrectly recorded during the initial investigation. Such and error would reconcile the presence of Type O blood along the path attributed to Frykowski, resolve contradictions between testimony and forensic findings, and account for long-standing anomalies noted by both the investigators, observers, testimony and evidence.
Witness testimony and statements made afterwards consistently places Frykowski on the porch and the lawn. The physical blood patterns align with this. Type O blood is present along the path. No credible evidence places Sebring or Tate-Polanski on the porch. This falls apart on the onset of this theory. Clothing evidence does not support the hypothesis that Sebring was the source of the blood on the porch. When all of these are placed together, Frykowski may have been mislabeled/mistyped. The scarf may not have been central to the prosecution, but it could be a likely key to understanding Frykowski's final moments, and revealing at how critical evidence may have been mishandled or misunderstood in the chaos of the investigation.